Was I smoking crack when I though this would be a good idea?!!!
Posted 12 September 2007 - 10:16 PM
It's been a while since I last posted at LHOTI. Some of you might remember I was the one who started the "house sitting" thread that turned into a mud slinging feast aginst The Log Connection log homes.
Anyway... I could probably make this into a 25 page long post about what a disaster the construction of our log home has been. It's just too bad too as my wife and I spent years researching before we decided to build and though we'd be able to pull this off with out any trouble. Well.... 13 months after they started building our house, we're still waiting to move in.
Our biggest problem was hiring a contracted that had his head... you know where. We checked him out before we hired him, went and saw homes he had built and called references. Apparently they were all just relatives of his. It didn't take too long for us to figure out our project was going to be WAY overbudget. Geeee.. might have helped if when the contractor bid the job had he remebrered that logs were not the only wood he needed and it might be a good idea to budget in for lumber.... he didn't. Geee.. for starters that's only about $50,000 off budget. (FYI... we did fire him, just not soon enough)
That was just one of the issues. Another was the painter/stainer he hired must have never seen a log home before in his life. His idea of prepping the home before stain was to power wash it and then stain away. We ended up with water stains running down all of our logs on the interior and exterior of the home. We insisted that they remove these before staining. Do you think they did? NO!! We ended up having to corn blast the entire interior of our just finished construction home. The exterior still needs to be done but that will have to come down the road.
HVAC crew quit in the middle of the project. Had to hire another crew to take over. That cost an additional $5000.
Plumber quit in the middle of the job, that's costing us an additional $3000
Tile guy has been laying tile for 8 weeks now.
And today the electricians are installing recessed can lighting in my kitchen and say they didn't leave enough room next to my upstairs bathroom drain and they can't fit the lights in. Oh, and sorry about the hole in your beautiful T&G ceiling!
If I had any idea there were so many flaky sub-cotractors in this area, I think I'd have just stayed in my conventional home build in 1926. (Oh, did I mention we sold that and have been living with my mother-in-law for 11 months now?)
OK, I feel about 1% better now.
Posted 14 September 2007 - 12:42 AM
Seriously, though... I don't know what you do to identify a good contractor. At our current vacation place, we have been desperately trying to find a mason for five months; we've scheduled estimates with 9; 1 showed up and gave us an estimate, but then never returned our calls to schedule the job itself. Finally, we found some guys who don't sound like they're locals (ie, they sound alert and intelligent and as if they actually do have some sense of pride in their work). I don't know how the subs will be able to screw up our log home once we start building, as their job will be quite simple (predrilled electric, very few non-log walls, easy plumbing), but I know they'll find a way.
Best of luck with your home! It will be worth it, really. You did all the right things, now it's just the last hump that you have to get over.
Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:31 AM
We are getting really close to finishing up and we're hoping we'd be done no later than 10/15. Well, we have now found out that the contractor we fired 4 months ago has a lein filed on our house and because of that, or bank has shut down funding of the loan till we resolve that matter.
So now we're in a catch-22 situation where I don't have the money to finish and the bank won't give us the money to finish. I really haven't a clue how this is all going to play out, but I'll tell you we've about had enough.
We do however have a lawyer working on things for us and I hope he comes through with something.
Oh, by the way, my tile guy is still not done. This is his 1oth week working there.
Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:39 AM
Good luck with the bank. I hope your lawyer is as evil to others as they have been to you.
Let us know when you're in what will be a beautiful home -- I'll send you a peace plant or something soothing. :-)
Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:49 AM
I think we will be able to come up with the money to finish the house on our own, but if the bank won't fund any more money, I may end up having to pay for two loans in the end.
My lawyer thinks the lien filed by the contractor is improper and he'll be sending a threatening notice out tomorrow that it needs to be removed right away. We'll see what happens.
Posted 19 February 2008 - 03:42 AM
Sorry I have not replied sooner, but the truth is once we moved in, the last thing I even wanted to think about was log homes.
We finally got moved in on the 15th on November, 2007. The home is still not 100% done, but enough to live in. I still have a ton of chinking to do and all my interior doors still need to be stained and the extrior doors (metal) need painted. Other than that, it's just minor stuff.
We are still in a legal battle with a few of the sub contractors and the general contractor, but that is almost dealt with.
I have posted a few pictures at the following link where you can see the home. They are really not the best pictures, but I think they will give you an idea what the home looks like. Feel free to comment. I'll have to get some better ones posted later on.
I'll admit, for several months, it felt like move-in day would never come.
Posted 19 February 2008 - 06:11 AM
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 05:59 PM
I really can't imagine ever having to go through it again though. We've all heard the stories about bad contractors, but I was just amazed to find out how true those stories were. Not just my general contractor, but even several of the subs we hired after the fact. Even though we'd check them out before hand, it seemed like they always managed to have an excuse why they were delayed. I almost feel like I could write a book on what to expect from your contractors. I truly hope it was just a fluke and most people don't have to go through what we did (well, sort of still are).
I really want to scream to the world my general contractors name, but till we have finished with our our legal battles I am hesitant to. Does anyone know the legalities of what I can or can't do to try and forwarn others? I'd seriously be willing to spend some money to keep him out of a job.
Posted 08 March 2008 - 01:27 PM
Your page mentioned this was a Precision Craft home. Their website implies they are very involved in selecting the recommended GC for building your home. Where were they in this process?????
Posted 10 March 2008 - 12:00 PM
We have learned that the fewer people you have involved the smoother the build goes.
I do realize that not everyone is capable of doing what we do . .build it ourselves. Or to be able to be the GC and be there to direct, supervise and iron out the daily stuff that comes up.
Our 3rd was started in July of 2006. .we are in . .it is not as finished as yours is. It is not a complex as yours either.
Enjoy . . . and the stress incurred will pass. It will all be worth it. The next one will be easier . . . .and by the 3rd you will be old hands at it.
Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:41 PM
The way they go about this is they will provide you with 3 contractors in your area. They have the contractors fill out a questionnaire and provide references. You can then use all this info to try and select one you might like. You can also get bids from the contractor. If you are not happy with any of them, they will give you 3 more to choose from. They claim they will do this till they find a contractor you are happy with.
In our case, we found one in the first group we felt could do the job right and at a price we could afford. The sad thing is he turned out to be a total flake and we're still to this day (a year after firing him) in a legal battle with him over our house.
If you have any other questions, feel free to let me know.
Posted 20 June 2008 - 04:44 AM
I understand... . The Log Connection man on site returned home to Ca before He was even close to finishing his contractual duties... That was just the start to a 4 yr. struggle ... TLC ignored me after I asked for their assistance seeing that their guy had left me hanging...Their response was to ignore me like I hadn't even existed in the first place. In essence, I feel for ya man. I had to sell the house after I was done...The best furnace in the world coudn't keep up with all the air and water leaks from curled logs.
Posted 19 July 2013 - 12:57 AM